Monday, July 10, 2017

VW electric fuel pump

VW electric fuel pump 

VW electric fuel pumps are troublesome and VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda cars are notorious for fuel pump problems. Fuel pump problems commonly affect the Volkswagen Polo Classic 6n, the VW Polo 9N, the VW Bora, the VW Passat, the VW Sharan, the VW Caddy, the VW Golf, the Volkswagen Touareg  and the  VW Beetle, among several other. Its effects can range from intermittent no starting to stalling whilst driving, though most clients would complaint that the car jerks and stall and then just shuts off. However it's not always the fuel pump that's to blame. 




VW fuel pump relay

The VW fuel pump relay is another culprit that goes faulty or rather its external contact terminals tend to burn. So if your car wont start, give the Fuel Pump Relay #409 (1J0 906 383 C) or #410 (6N0 906 383A) a knock or two with a screwdriver handle and should the car start, then it's most likely a bad contact on one of its 7 spade terminal. Remove the relay and see if any of its terminal pins have burnt brown. If not, the relay's internal contacts are probably faulty and needs to be replaced. One consolation is that the relay is fairly cheap and it can be bought on-line at ebay.com for as little as $15. However, a VW fuel pump price on the other hand, is ridiculously priced especially  considering I've had a clients who had to have two fuel pumps replaced in under 9000 km. I don't think they are quality pumps.

When our VW Caddy's fuel pump started to give-in, it presented itself as an occasional engine misfire when pulling away from a stop street or traffic lights. The engine misfire became progressively worse over time, so it was booked-in for a service, for spark plug replacement, oil drain and oil  filter replacement, etc.  At this time we didn't know that the engine misfire was caused by the fuel pump. The day the Caddy was returned, it drove fine for the first two hours then started to misfire as it did before, but thereafter the fuel pump started sounding like a hoover vacuum cleaner

I knew it was the fuel pump because I've heard this sound before on both a Polo 1.4 Trendline and a Jetta 1.8 which at the time turned out to be the fuel pump. Anyway, the noise from the fuel pump was really high pitched and annoying, After several hours of driving it became unbearable so the Caddy went back to the mechanic who then diagnosed the fuel pump as faulty. After the fuel pump was replaced the noise disappeared and the miss was gone as well. My friend also  encountered the "hoover vacuum cleaner" with his Caddy but after a few days it just disappeared, so now he occasionally experiences starting problems.


VW  Fuel Pump Relay 409 / 410

VW  Fuel Pump Relay Part # 1J0906383B (409) is a 12V 40A relay with 7 spade terminal connectors, 2 Wide, 2 Standard and 3 mini. The same relay is  installed in VW Polo Mk3, VW Jetta, VW Golf Mk4, VW bora,VW beetle, Audi A3, Audi  TT, Seat Leon,  Skoda Octavia,  VW Sharan and VW Passat, etc.


VW  Fuel Pump Relay Part # 6N0906383A (410) is installed in VW Polo 6N, VW Golf Mk4, VW Lupo 6X, Skoda Fabia 6Y, VW Sharan 7M, AUDI A2, SEAT Arosa, SEAT Alhambra, VW Golf GTI, VW Passat and VW Polo Mk3, etc.

Replacing a fuel pump

Remember that the VW electric fuel pump relies on fuel passing through it for both cooling and lubrication. If or when running the fuel pump dry, fuel starvation can accelerate  internal component wear and may cause  the fuel pump motor to overheat and burn out. Electric fuel pumps run from the moment the ignition is switched on, so its fairly obvious that after a few years of operation their armature bushings, gears, commutator and brushes will suffer wear and tear, causing a gradual loss of pressure. Loss of fuel pump pressure commonly causes the "EPC" light to come on. A fuel leak or an Evaporative Emission System (EVAP) leak would also turn on the "EPC" light as well as the "Check Engine" light because the low inlet manifold pressure would upset the engine's air-fuel ratio and degrade engine performance and reduce fuel efficiency.  It would also diminish  power and acceleration, and possibly even cause stalling.  So if you need to replace your VW electric fuel pump, make absolutely sure you depressurize the fuel system before disconnecting the fuel lines. The easiest way to do this is to remove the fuel cap, remove the electric fuel pump fuse or relay and crank the engine a few times. 

Faulty Fuel Pump Flanges

There is currently a VW / Audi fuel pump recall, though its not necessarily the pump that's defective but rather faulty flanges manufactured by German supplier Continental Automotive GmbH. Apparently they've been supplying VW, Audi and Porsche with flanges that seem to crack and cause fuel leaks and potential fires. Apparently Continental sold the potentially faulty flanges to eleven automobile manufacturers and five OEM parts supply companies. Audi, Ford,  Fiat Chrysler, General Motors,  Jaguar-Land Rover, Lamborghini, Mercedes-Benz, McLaren, Porsche, Volvo and VW are just some of the automakers who used these industry-standard polymer flanges but other automakers may possibly also be at risk. 

Meanwhile Volkswagen, Porsche and Audi already recalled nearly a half-million vehicles because of leaky flanges, that cover fuel tank openings and is used for the fuel pump and other items. U.S. safety regulators are currently trying to track down gas tank flanges that may crack and cause fuel leaks on what could be millions of cars of all makes and models.

34 comments:

  1. Hi I'm driving polo 1.6 2006 model,since I 've changed the pump the guage it's no longer working and sometimes the engen just go off when driving pls help

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    1. Fuel level sensor may not be getting signal either fuse or relay or the in tank pump level sender dirty or damaged and telling engine no fuel possibly

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    2. I also have the same problem, could it be the relay?

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  2. Hi i have a question about relay 410 & 409 i've been searching for the relay 410 since long but everywhere it is out of stock. So i just wanted to know if the Relay 409 & 410 are the same... Thanks

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    1. Check the diagrams on the side see if they are the same if so it should be fine

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  3. I have change fuel pump and now the is no power on the plug so it's not supplying fuel

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  4. Hi I have a problem with my polo 6 2011 comfort line,one day while driving the car just gave a jerk and stopped, couldn't start it after that, at first it said it was the coil pack on diagnostic as we had no spark at all but later noticed it was fuse that was blown (fuse 55,which said all ignition coil out puts) every time I changed the fuse it popped, so even changed the coil pack. Now I have spark however the fuel pump doesn't come in when turn ignition on, tested fuel pump manually and it works, check relay 449 and that is OK. What else could be the problem?

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  5. How can I get fuel pump for Volkswagen polo in Kenya and at what price

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  6. Morning my name is Sydney am in KwaZulu Natal (Kokstad) my car has no power but the relay it working the petrol pump is pumping slowly

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    1. Pump have filter on them it could be blocked or need a new in tank fuel pump

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  7. Hi where can we found a petrol pump fuse in polo classic 2004 model

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  8. Hi I have a 2012 Polo 6 Gti. I've had issues with my fuel pump packing up and everytime a new one is replaced, it happens again. Have replaced the pump 5 times now and even the fuel filter and have barely done 3000kms. No faults pick up on the diagnostic check. Any advice and assistance will be appreciated.

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  9. Hi. Does the VW polo 2010 has a secondary fuel pump and where is it located ? Pls help

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    1. Inside the fuel tank if you lift the back seats up there is a round panel usually unscrew to remove, has a connector and hoses to it

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  10. Hi I'm looking for a vw polo 2012 diseal pump the one that goes to the tank

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  11. Hi I change the pump but the prom is plugs are getting flood
    What is a problem?

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    1. If it’s diesel it could be your injectors leaking

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  12. For a caddy 2 9k model 1.9sdi, does the tank need dropped to change the lift pump or is there an access under floor lining? I know my caddy 2k needed tank dropped but what about these ones? Thanks

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  13. Hi just sent my 2007 polo 1.4 for a service when it returned I heard a humming noise the noise comes and go's it is a high pitched noise and no trouble like jerking or switching off what can I do?Dont want to interfere with the pump.....

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  14. I did trace that hum to the petrol pump but like I said dont want to interfere..

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  15. Polo playa 2001 I change the ralay but it doesn't send power to pump , but when directly power connected to pump it starts ,what could be the problem

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  16. what type of a fuel pump relay does a 2001 poloplaya millenium 1.6i use and hw many pins and number for that relay

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  17. Hi please can someone naybe help
    I have a polo classic 2001 1.4 nut and bolt restored.
    Diagnostics does not picking up my ecu
    And no lights are coming on on the dasboerd for ecu.
    My problem is i have changed the feulpump 3 times bought from vw. No luck i bought a aftermarket pump and the car drives for 2km and pump died up to today the car can rev and its clean as soon as i accelerate flat it goes and then stutter like its going into a limpmode please i need help

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  18. Hello I drive a vw polo 6 1.4 2013 model of recent it does not want to start. I called in a mechanic to check the diagnostic says petrol injector but he later found out that the problem cannot be fixed then he suggested that the problem might be the petrol pump. I am really confused because from the sound of it a new petrol pump is costly. Please advice

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  20. Hi,
    Have a polo 2006 1.4, done a service with VW last year and ever since my car is switching off whilst driving, there is no torque, but also at times it refuses to start. i was told electrical issue and it the anti hijack draining the battery. i deactivated it droves for a while no issues than started again. at times, will start after about 10min, but now whilst driving looses power and will stop. it swings but that it...pls pls pls help ....

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    1. I experienced the same issue especially when the temperatures are high.

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  21. What is the pressure of a feul pump in the polo playa 1.8

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  22. Hi guys I have a polo classic afx engine 1999 model the fuel pump does not come on when I turn on my key
    Even when I test it on the fuse with a test light but still

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  23. Hello my VW Polo 1.4 2007 model has a problem with the fuel pump i changed it several but still the problem of going off when is too hot still persists. Kindly help me.

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  24. I have a 2004 polo it was starting and I drive to the shop came back try to start it start but don't want idel and go dead after 2 hours I try amen it start and run 100% what can be the problem rhank you

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  25. Hi m driving polo vivo 1,6 i put new petrol pump doesn't pump petrol

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